Thank you for your kind words and interest. One man had blonde or light-brown hair, wore a white shirt, and was armed with a rifle. Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did you know, in 1963, what type of security precautions the Warren Commission had for conducting its investigation? Obviously, my handwriting has long been broken down. Mr. CORNWELL - What type of people were they? Mr. CORNWELL - Has any representative of the Agency or anyone who you believed might be a representative of the Agency ever come to you and discussed these matters? My testimony included numerous meetings with a man named Bill Shelly (I am no longer certain of the correct spelling of his last name.) Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir; I believe that happened. Mr. WILCOTT - In December of 1975, in the little magazine called The Pelican at the University of California, and an interview was conducted by a reporter from that magazine. This was about, believe -- about October of 1975. I found it very, very difficult to talk about these things that I think ought to be talked about, very difficult. But their manner was very relaxed. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, from May of 1957 to January of 1960 -
Mr. GOLDSMITH - And, Mr. Wilcott, is it true that you are a former employee with the CIA and that you are here today testifying voluntarily without a subpoena? The Warren Commission did all they could to delay the arrival time on the first floor by Adams and Styles in order to remove the two girls from the stairs when Oswald would have likely been on them. James Wilcott's Testimony Intro Author: Jim Hargrove <hargrove@enteract.com> . Mr. PREYER - Thank you. In April of 1966, I resigned from the CIA. Butler said that the 411 Elm Street building was vacant for at least a year after his company moved out. Mr. WILCOTT - No. [13] Henry Hurt, Reasonable Doubt (New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1985), pp. Did you recognize any part of it, the first two letters or the last portions of it, as referring to any geographic area or any type of activity or anything like that? Mr. WILCOTT - That is right. Mr. DODD - I am just a little confused, I guess, over your reaction. Mr. WILCOTT - That was November of 1977. Mr. PREYER - So that in XXXX, you indicated, six or seven people talked to you and were, as I understood it, rather definite about the Oswald connection? ", That was the kind of things that people said. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have an opinion as to how the
Then, as time Went on, I began to hear more things in that line. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Have you received a copy of the Committee's rules? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I realize this is testimony 15 years after the fact. Mr. WILCOTT - No, I didn't, as far as the Oswald cryptonym was concerned; no, I didn't. The stark contrast in the quality of scholarship between the two books was one factor convincing him that there was a huge conspiracy behind the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - That is correct, sir. Mr. CORNWELL - In other words, that is, the first two letters or the last ones would have been the same as this? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. I asked the first man I sawa man who was telephoning from a pillar in the middle of the roomwhere I could call from. Mr. DODD - And you and your wife both went to work for the CIA about the same time? Mr. CORNWELL - What routinely was done with such note pads? The letters themselves came to me from Larry Ray Harris, a prominent researcher of the Kennedy assassination, who knew a lot about the shooting of Officer Tippit and was featured in the British television documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, George Breen, again, after we came back from XXXXXXXX, for instance, XXXXXXXX was a person that I knew before I had gone to XXXXXX Station, and I met with him, and I had dinner at his house with his wife and my wife. Mr. WILCOTT - The basis for that is discussions that I had with people at the XXXXX Station. The largest typical box for books measured 12 x 14 x 18 inches, was made out of cardboard, and when filled with books weighed 55 pounds. The book depository was in a seven-story, red brick building located at 411 Elm Street. Mr. SCHAAP - For the record, I have made a list of all of these spellings of the names which have been mentioned, which I will give to the stenographer so that he will have, them correctly. Since the floors were not strong enough to accommodate forklifts, he wondered how the warehouse men could have moved such enormous boxes. SILENCED! Mr. PREYER - It had no relation to your performance? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I am sorry, I didn't hear. [11] Glaze misdated his letter as 12/12/74.. Mr. WILCOTT - I left the agency in April of 1966 for the Miami Station. He was still there when Garner retired in 1986. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know. Mr. CORNWELL - Do you have any knowledge, based upon your tenure XXXXXXX as to who would have trained Oswald in the Russian language if that occurred? Also Present: Elizabeth Berning, Chief Clerk, and Charles Berk, Betsy Wolf and James Wolf. I think you are making some important allegations here, and you have been very helpful in giving some witnesses' names through which we might be able to corroborate it, but I think it is very important that we know clearly how much of this was cocktail party talk and how much was shop talk and how much was speculation and rumor and how much was hard fact. On many occasions he had conversations with CIA personnel concerning Lee Harvey Oswald's employment as a CIA agent. In late 1977, while working as a reporter for the Avalanche-Journal newspaper in Lubbock, Texas, I submitted written testimony to the United States House of Representatives newly-formed Select Committee on Assassinations. From about January of 1960 to about June of 1960, I was transferred to Finance Field Payroll, also, in this same building, on the Potomac. Mr. WILCOTT - Not specifically, only generally. And I think that is why I probably heard a lot more things than other people did, for instance, than my wife did, because of that situation. GLAZE, Elzie Dean Age 66, is celebrated by his family for his compassion, humor and willingness to help family, friends and the world at large. I apologize." The fact that he went and got his gun afterwards and then walked to the Texas Theater, perhaps to meet with someone, this suggests that he had some kind of agenda to fulfill. Mr. CORNWELL - Is that the only reason? RX-ZIM. Mr. CORNWELL - At several points in your testimony you have stated there were six or seven persons, and on each occasion you raised the extent of their knowledge as "knew" or "believed." Mr. GOLDSMITH - How did this information concerning Oswald first come to your attention? Learn more. James T. Tague was an unintended victim in the Kennedy assassination, hit by a stray bullet while stuck in traffic on the way to pick up a luncheon date. Mr. GOLDSMITH - However, your testimony is that you spoke to only six people as an estimate who indicated that Oswald was a CIA agent -- and when I say six people, I mean six CIA people, is that correct? This we concluded from putting various pieces of information together. Like Frazier, who was eating lunch in the basement, Oswald went to the first-floor lunchroom to eat his lunch. Please excuse this messy letter. [19] Immediately after Adams and Styles went out the back door, Officer Marion Baker came in through the front door and met Roy Truly. Mr. WILCOTT - No; I think that I looked through my advance book -- and I had a book where the advances on projects were run, and I leafed through them, and I must have at least leafed through them to see if what he said was true. exactly for sure. House of Representatives, John F. Kennedy Subcommittee of the Select Committee on Assassinations, Washington, D. C. Shelleys claim that he was an intelligence officer would make sense if, as an ROTC lieutenant, he received intelligence training and perhaps even given some assignments in counterespionage. Mr. WILCOTT - They would have summaries of some sort. Mr. DODD - Talking about hours afterwards or a day afterwards? However, the woman became terrified at the mention of it & said she would deny she ever said it if I tried to publicize the incident. I was in too much of a hurry to remember what the three men looked like. [17] Gladys Cason, One Life, self-published book, 2004, pp. Mr. WILCOTT - George Breen was a person in Registry, who was my closest friend while I was in XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. I will give my card to the Committee. Mr. SAWYER - Could you tell us what those things consisted of? Mr. CORNWELL - I have no further questions. Mr. DODD - And she was aware of it from 1964 up until 1968 --
Then in 2009 I read and reviewed James Douglass's masterpiece, JFK and the Unspeakable, and my traumatic memories of 1963 and after came flooding back in full force. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for JFK Assassination : The James B. Wilcott Files And The CIA Oswald Project: An Investigative Report at Amazon.com. And their security that there is in the Government didn't strike me as the kind of security that would keep me from getting attacked in some way, if someone wanted to do it. And I will ask the question again, okay. 1964, of course, the Vietnam war was going on and Lyndon Johnson was now president. Copies of my written testimony have disappeared from my personal files. [18] Carolyn Walther, 24H522; Edwards, 24H207; Fischer, 24H208. Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have anything to add in response to that question? [4] FBI report of Roy Truly interview by Nat Pinkston, November 23, 1963, File No. Free shipping for many products! Mr. WILCOTT - Oh, no. ", and they might look it over and retype the accounting for funds for their project and, you know, make changes that they might think were in their interest to do. We will. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Was Jerry Fox one of the people that made. The shot killed Dr. King. I think, or I am certain, in my own mind, that, if these people were approached that some of these people --
I next called John Peets, the manager of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. time and date of assassination and correspondence with time and date of Wilcott's hearing of assassination. One label read Texas School Book Depository, 500 Red Pony books by John Steinbeck, from Bobbs-Merrill. Wilcott's Full HSCA Testimony EXECUTIVE SESSION ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978 House of Representatives, John F. Kennedy Subcommittee of the Select Committee on Assassinations, Mr. GOLDSMITH - And what did he tell you the cryptonym was? William Weston began researching the assassination of President Kennedy in 1992, after making a comparison of Anthony Summers excellent book Conspiracy to a book defending the official version called Final Disclosure by David Belin. I have no further questions. The third calm man was probably Wesley Fraizer, who stuck close to Shelley and Lovelady. DL 100-10461. CIA might handled any projects involving Oswald and for what purpose they might have used Oswald? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why not? Mr. DODD - Would you care to tell us any of the names of people whom you communicated with? TESTIMONY OF JAMES B. WILCOTT, A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY: Mr. GOLDSMITH - For the record, would you please state your name and address and occupation? In my letter to him, I praised him for his courage and expressed the hope that someday he might fill in the gaps of his story for the sake of history. At my request, he sent me a copy. If it is true that Shelley was affiliated in some way with CIA or U.S. intelligence, that would be a disturbing and potentially significant development.[10]. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 1978
Mr. GOLDSMITH - And when you testified earlier that you learned Oswald's cryptonym, by that do you mean that you learned both Oswald's personal cryptonym and his project cryptonym, or was it one of the two? For details, please see the Terms & Conditions associated with these promotions. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. It seems to me that I recall jotting it on a little pad. Mr. WILCOTT - It was right at my window, my disbursing cage window. Carolyn Walther, a street spectator waiting to see the presidents motorcade, observed a two-man sniper team at a window on the fifth floor on the far-right side of the building. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, are you here with Counsel today? Mr. WILCOTT - Destroyed or changed. 359-360, 386-387. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Referring to that list, would you tell the Committee where you were stationed during your period with the CIA? Mr. PREYER - Thank you for being here today, and I will call the subcommittee to order at this time. With that, I pass along my rather tiny candle, plus my best wishes and encouragement. XXXXXXXXXXXXX. Bring your club to Amazon Book Clubs, start a new book club and invite your friends to join, or find a club thats right for you for free. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, how long were these advance books retained? Mr. CORNWELL - What year was that? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Would you read the list to the Committee? Mr. GOLDSMITH - I have nothing further, Mr. Chairman. On October 5, 1986, Elsie Wilcott died of cancer. William Weston examines the curious letters of Elzie Glaze and considers potential connections between the CIA and the Texas School Book Depository. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. His information was that he had been unwitt. or C.I.A. Mr. CORNWELL - And would that -- at least in part --. Glazes meetings with Shelley were therefore not at the Ambassador Row facility, as I originally believed, but rather they occurred at the building on Gemini Lane. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Excuse me, please proceed very slowly. That would be William Shelley, who Oswald worked under for six weeks as an order filler for the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD). As described to me by Joe Bergin, Jr., son of the regional manager of Scott Foresman, working conditions changed dramatically after the assassination. The Three Barons proves that it is possible (with enough research), to reconstruct the organizational chart of the JFK plot. About a minute or two later, NBC news reporter Robert MacNeil came in through the front door, amazed to see three calm men. I apologize. He was an accomplished journalist and author and had worked as a radio engineer in his early career. Mr. WILCOTT - On two other occasions, I was on KPOO Radio in San Francisco and I discussed in detail, in quite a bit of detail, the speculations and also the incident of the case officer contacting me at the window. It would be easy to verify: (1) if a reporter named Glaze has ever worked for the Lubbock newspaper, (2) if a journalist named Glaze was living in Dallas in 1974/1975. Mr. SAWYER - Do you distinguish between an agent and a paid informant or do you use those terms interchangeably? [8] Carolyn Arnold, a secretary for Vice-president Ochus Campbell, told a friend in 1994 that she had been, and still was, terrified. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott after leaving the XXXXXXXXX Station, was there any other time when you came across any information that indicated that Oswald was a CIA agent? Had the seemingly insignificant trail of bread crumbs I stumbled across had not been so he avidly guarded, I might never have given it a second thought. The home of Joe Bergin, Sr. and his wife seemed to have been a target for persecution, perhaps because Mrs. Bergin was strongly pro-Kennedy and actively worked for his election in 1960. Mr. SAWYER - What were they? Mr. WILCOTT - Not directly, no, sir. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Only of Case Officers. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, the payments that were made especially to substations like Oswald's was operated -- it was a substation of the XXXXXXXX station, and they had one in XXXXXX and they had one in XXXXXXXXX-- and it may be six months or even a year after the intial allocation that the final accounting for those funds were submitted, and they would operate out of revolving funds or out of their own personal funds in many cases. [5] Examination of city directories and phone books in the Dallas Public Library shows that the book depository and the publishing companies did not have the 411 Elm Street address until 1963. Standing next to him was a man wearing a brown suitcoat. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir. EXECUTIVE SESSION
Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I am sure somewhere. Mr. DODD - It would have been a cryptonym and he was telling you, you had, in fact, made a disbursement? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. But in the light of the information in this essay, it seems interesting that it was Shelly and Truly who took the name of Oswald to the police. Mr. WILCOTT - Along those lines they said things like, well, that Oswald couldn't have pulled the trigger, that only CIA could have set up such an elaborate project and there was nobody with the kind of knowledge or information that could have done this, and this was more in the speculative realm. Mr. WILCOTT - I have been trying to talk about this thing and other things for the last ten years. That is all I have. The incident occurred in about 1969. Garner went on to say that at the same time, around 1969, William Shelley quit the book depository and began working for Scott Foresman. Wilcott worked in the accounting department and was in charge of disbursement of cash funds. Mr. PREYER - Let me interrupt. Which he was allegedly working for. Mr. WILCOTT - No, I don't. [3], Actually, the move took place a few months before the assassination. [10] Larry Ray Harris at the age of 44 died in an automobile accident on October 5, 1996. Mr. CORNWELL - On any other occasions? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Mr. Wilcott, you indicated that after receiving this information concerning Oswald's cryptonym, you went back to check some files, is that correct? For many years he assisted organizations that helped veterans, monitored the nuclear power industry, and worked to ensure basic human rights. Their apartment looked as if no one had ever lived in it. Mr. WILCOTT - No. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Their whereabouts are completely unknown. The significance of Glazes 1989 letter is that it provides a tantalizing piece of information which may indicate a covert side to the depository itself. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why did you go back to look at the book? Mr. WILCOTT - -- to the Miami Station. He was still living on Tatum Avenue at the time of the assassination. Did you have further questions? that correct? . Here, by your own testimony, you were supportive of the President, and certainly the most significant tragedy, I think, probably in the last 15 years or 20 years was the assassination of President Kennedy, and you are told by some who worked for the Agency that Oswald was a CIA agent and you already were dissatisfied with the actions of the Agency and you are told this in 1964 and yet it takes four, years, or two years, after you had left the Agency, recognizing the tremendous import and significance of that, and I am terribly confused as to why you decided to keep that information to yourself and to your wife. I asked her if the new building was near the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35, and she said yes, on Gemini Lane. Mr. SCHAAP - Mr. Chairman, I would like to interpose, I guess, an objection, although I would like to make it more in the nature of a request, that I have some problems in terms of advising my client with respect to possibly self incrimination, that I would not advise him to go into questions of his specific knowledge of the oath and the application to what he did other than the fact that he has told you, which is a fact, that he did sign the oath; but to, go into his mental processes as to whether he felt what he was then doing related to the oath in a particular way, I would request that those questions not be asked on the grounds that they may violate either his First Amendment rights or his Fifth Amendment rights, if that would be all right.